WWDC is around the corner, what do you wish for specially pixelmator pro related?

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2019-05-20 13:34:39

For me core ml 3, machine learning 3 the next iteration of swift and an app which brings pixelmator pro to iOS... Oh, a sneak peak of the the new Mac pro. Is there room for a better machine learning?
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2019-05-20 13:49:14

I'm in the market for a new laptop; I'm currently using an old and underpowered 12" MacBook that has developed an odd rattle and gets really slow on complex images. As much as I want the screen of the 15" MacBook Pro, the laptop itself is a bit big for me (and it's *really* expensive).
I'm hoping for smaller screen bezels so that the 13" MacBook Pro gets a bigger screen without a size increase. Also hoping for faster onboard graphics and cheaper memory/flash drive options.
I've not been watching the smoke signals so I really hope the Macbook Pro is due a refresh.
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2019-05-20 14:11:41

by st3f 2019-05-20 14:02:47 I'm in the market for a new laptop; I'm currently using an old and underpowered 12" MacBook that has developed an odd rattle and gets really slow on complex images. As much as I want the screen of the 15" MacBook Pro, the laptop itself is a bit big for me (and it's *really* expensive).
I'm hoping for smaller screen bezels so that smaller MacBook Pro gets a bigger screen without a size increase. Also hoping for faster onboard graphics and cheaper memory/flash drive options.
I've not been watching the smoke signals so I really hope the Macbook Pro is due a refresh.
I feel your pain although there were rumours of a refresh I can't see that happen because they updated the MacBook Pro line last autumn. I guess you have to be wait a bit longer. It's expensive that's true but I think the iMac isn't that expensive compared to a PC with similar specs. You can't use the MacBook for traveling and the iMac for work?
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2019-05-20 14:35:53

I tend to work on the move a lot so I've been laptop-only for quite a few years now. This is one of the reasons why I like the single-interface of Pixelmator Pro so much. Maximise the window, shrink the layers panel to its smallest extent (sometimes I wish it would go smaller), use ⌥T to show/hide to tools sidebar and I get an appreciable bit of screen real-estate back (compared or Classic Pixelmator). This also explains why I lust after the 15" MacBook on a regular basis until I remind myself of the weight and the size it takes up in a bag.
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2019-05-20 14:57:18

..but more about WWDC, I'd love to see Photos gain some functionality that allows it to be used more strongly with external apps. It's a bit of a change in its core mission but I'd love for it to become a repository for image files, even those that it can't edit itself. So, an image created with Pixelmator Pro (whether it started life as a photograph or not) could live in the photos database alongside its Pixelmator Pro file. That way, once I find the final image from a project, I've already found the project files used to create it too.
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2019-05-20 15:13:22

by st3f 2019-05-20 11:58:06 ..but more about WWDC, I'd love to see Photos gain some functionality that allows it to be used more strongly with external apps. It's a bit of a change in its core mission but I'd love for it to become a repository for image files, even those that it can't edit itself. So, an image created with Pixelmator Pro (whether it started life as a photograph or not) could live in the photos database alongside its Pixelmator Pro file. That way, once I find the final image from a project, I've already found the project files used to create it too.


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2019-05-20 15:24:27

Hehe. Integration nightmares? Or just not a fan of Photos?
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2019-05-20 16:56:38

by st3f 2019-05-20 15:24:27 Hehe. Integration nightmares? Or just not a fan of Photos?
I guess that means, we have already thought of this and it's on our roadmap, you just revealed it
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2019-05-20 22:33:11

oops.
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2019-05-21 08:26:57

by st3f 2019-05-20 22:33:11 oops.
It's all good. You're quite close to something we'd like to add, it's not really to do with WWDC, though.
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2019-05-22 04:05:53

by st3f 2019-05-20 22:33:11 oops.
actually you were right. New MacBook pros archived today but they are really expensive especially with a 32gb ram upgrade. It's really redicous that you have to pay 420 euros more for an additional 16 GB.
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2019-05-22 05:51:32

by ResLes 2019-05-22 04:05:53 you were right.
Yes and no. I was hoping for a the next generation MacBook. I'm fairly certain that what we got was a speed-bump across the board and maybe a new top-end processor for the 15".
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2019-05-22 08:46:48

by st3f 2019-05-22 05:51:32 Yes and no. I was hoping for a the next generation MacBook. I'm fairly certain that what we got was a speed-bump across the board and maybe a new top-end processor for the 15".
that's true it was a speed bump. A redesign could come maybe next big year but if you consider the history of redesigns it comes likely in two to three years. The question would be how urgent you need a new computer?
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2019-05-22 11:20:47

I've a lot of affection for my old MacBook and can squeeze more life out of it by single-tasking when I'm doing anything complex (and carrying an external battery when I'm out and about). Unless it dies or I have a project that I *really* can't do in 8GB, it's more a desire than a need and that can wait.
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2019-05-22 12:03:23

by st3f 2019-05-22 11:24:46 I've a lot of affection for my old MacBook and can squeeze more life out of it by single-tasking when I'm doing anything complex (and carrying an external battery when I'm out and about). Unless it dies or I have a project that I *really* can't do in 8GB, it's more a desire than a need and that can wait.
that's good. Desires are not a need that's true. I would wait, too. Maybe in three years time the MacBook Pro will be equipped with an a16 processor....
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2019-05-31 07:37:01

by st3f 2019-05-20 14:57:18 ..but more about WWDC, I'd love to see Photos gain some functionality that allows it to be used more strongly with external apps. It's a bit of a change in its core mission but I'd love for it to become a repository for image files, even those that it can't edit itself. So, an image created with Pixelmator Pro (whether it started life as a photograph or not) could live in the photos database alongside its Pixelmator Pro file. That way, once I find the final image from a project, I've already found the project files used to create it too.
You really nailed it! Just read the comment again. I haven't used photos really but after that sneak peak of 1.4 it sank in. I could create project folders in photos and have the power of Pix Pro at my fingertips. To merge Photos and Pix Pro is just awesome I haven't really thought of this much.

A question to Andrius:
What would the Pixelmator team love to see how Apple could improve photos and Pix Pro can make use of it?
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2019-06-04 07:06:17

I watched a summary of WWDC this morning. Lists of good stuff. Sidecar in macOS Catalina looks particularly interesting. I wonder how much work it would be to bring Sidecar support to Pixelmator Pro. 🤔
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2019-06-04 07:53:42

That would be be great. Using the Apple pencil withbpix pro. I am also curious about how they use the new swift language to speed up development
and performance?

Regarding ML 3. I found some tutorials on the Apple website:
https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/209

And
https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/704.

How could they implement the vision framework?

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/222
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2019-06-07 11:54:47

by st3f 2019-06-04 07:06:17 I watched a summary of WWDC this morning. Lists of good stuff. Sidecar in macOS Catalina looks particularly interesting. I wonder how much work it would be to bring Sidecar support to Pixelmator Pro. 🤔
I think you don't like this:

https://www.cultofmac.com/629666/only-a ... -catalina/
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2019-06-07 12:06:30

Ah well... that'll have to wait until I upgrade. I did ponder buying an iMac the other day as a stopgap.
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2019-06-07 12:58:10

by st3f 2019-06-07 12:11:48 Ah well... that'll have to wait until I upgrade. I did ponder buying an iMac the other day as a stopgap.
nice, which one do you prefer? The 27 inch with upgradable Ram? Do you adopting to a different work flow?
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2019-06-07 16:06:07

I'm not sure. Depends how much I commit to working at a desk again. Either one is a big upgrade in screen real-estate. The Mac Mini is also an option. We shall see.
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2019-06-07 16:30:24

That's true the Mac mini would also be a good option. Good luck with it
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2019-06-10 06:00:51

by st3f 2019-06-07 16:06:07 I'm not sure. Depends how much I commit to working at a desk again. Either one is a big upgrade in screen real-estate. The Mac Mini is also an option. We shall see.
I realised that Appleinsider did a buying guide Imac vs mac mini 2018, of course that applies also mostly to the 2019 imac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLluD1jttPc

Maybe that is useful to you?
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2019-06-13 17:37:03

It was helpful, thanks. I've realised that I'm happy to reduce my specs (and therefore price) if I get a Mac Mini so that's the choice for me.
Ironically, within hours of making that decision, I read this: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/06/13/ap ... -database/
Oh look... it's that MacBook Pro refresh I was waiting for... maybe.
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2019-06-13 18:04:35

I am a bit confused, I thought you made the decision to go with the Mac mini? Or do you wait for the top model of the MacBook Pro? That will not come cheap... I don't see the Mac mini as an downgrade really. It comes with an i7 and the ram can be upgraded to even 64 GB I believe. You could get even an external graphic card if needed.

Do you wait or do you get a Mac mini?
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2019-06-13 19:01:20

I'm still going to get the Mini (I'm just trying to decide how small an SSD I can live with). But I reserve the right to look at the laptops when they come out and drool a bit.
When I talk about reducing specs I'm thinking about Mac Mini vs (iMac or MacBook Pro). The last two are all-in-one units and so I want to spec them highly as I can afford to get the longest life out of them. I'm happier speccing the Mini lower. After all, as it's not a laptop I can always add external storage or even an external GPU (I know I can add both of those to a iMac/MacBook Pro, they just stop being as elegant/portable when I do). And, if the specs don't last my usual 4-6 years, it's a small thing that I don't mind keeping about as a second machine that gets occasional use.
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2019-06-13 19:56:17

I know what you mean, I also stretched it out as far as I can. I bought the Macbook Pro 2017 and I will keep it hopefully 10 years at least my Macbook air 2011 is still in use but I doubt it. My touchbar the light is fading (I guess some moisture came into it) and the butterfly keyboard is notorious of failing. Honestly I personally would not buy an expensive laptop again (as nice as it appears). The Imac with an ssd would be attractive but then if something is failing after 3 years its a bummer.

The mac mini is easy to take (moving soon to a different country) and it's relatively cheap. I have a 4k Dell monitor which I use with my Macbook Pro and a mechanical keyboard with the Mx Master mouse. I think I would get the Mac Mini in 3-4 years from now with an I7 or A17 Apple chip, 40 - 50 GB of Ram (2rd party) and the default graphic card with 256 or 512 GB SSD.

I know the 16 inch Macbook Pro would be nice to have a look at it - and maybe its refined without the touchbar and a better keyboard.
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2019-07-09 06:53:31

by st3f 2019-06-13 19:01:20 I'm still going to get the Mini (I'm just trying to decide how small an SSD I can live with). But I reserve the right to look at the laptops when they come out and drool a bit.
When I talk about reducing specs I'm thinking about Mac Mini vs (iMac or MacBook Pro). The last two are all-in-one units and so I want to spec them highly as I can afford to get the longest life out of them. I'm happier speccing the Mini lower. After all, as it's not a laptop I can always add external storage or even an external GPU (I know I can add both of those to a iMac/MacBook Pro, they just stop being as elegant/portable when I do). And, if the specs don't last my usual 4-6 years, it's a small thing that I don't mind keeping about as a second machine that gets occasional use.
Oh, that video could be also very useful. https://youtu.be/0fVOiSRUY3E
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2019-07-09 11:53:32

After a weird interoperability problem with my MacBook an external monitor (viewtopic.php?f=16&t=16958) I decided that I liked discrete graphics cards more than I had previously thought and got myself a 2019 iMac:
21.5" 4K screen
16GB RAM
500 GB SSD
6 core 5.0 GHz i5
4GB Radeon Pro 560X
(other than the screen and graphics card, the same spec as I was going to get with a Mac Mini)

I am loving it. Unless I'm doing something really intensive, the processor just burbles along and my memory rarely needs to swap unless I've a *lot* open.

Probably the biggest change I've noticed is memory. Having gone from an 8GB machine with an integrated graphics card (which I assume uses system memory as graphics memory) to 16GB with a discrete graphics card (with its own memory) I've got so much more space to work with. Say the OS takes 2-4GB and the embedded graphics card 1.5GB, my 8GB MacBook leaves me with only 2.5-4.5GB of memory for apps before I start swapping out to the SSD. My iMac in the same condition leaves me with 12-14GB!

Thanks for linking the video but I'm not going to watch any more reviews or YouTube advice. I'm at a stage where I don't want to get any buyer's remorse over my decision. I don't think I will, though. Moving from the Mac Mini I was planning to get I sacrificed a little bit of screen size and the ability to use the monitor with other things but gained a discrete graphics card, a keyboard, and a trackpad. And it was a little cheaper. I call that a win.

Thanks for all your help and advice along the way. It was much appreciated.

- Stef.
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2019-07-11 05:38:00

Thats fantastic that you got such a great deal. I think so too that the ram makes the biggest difference in terms of editing photos. Good choice.